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. the document itself has all of the content of a paul ryan budget. >> to reveal health care reform? >> exactly, but keep the money. we'll be back right after this, and we'll talk about the rape trial verdict that came down over -- stew benville and the amazing concepts that went with that. we'll talk about it after the break, and it points to the very problem of reporting and prosecuting rape in this country and the public response to it when it's a certain type of defendant, and it's right in line with where women are finding themselves in the electorate. you are listening to the "stephanie miller show," and watching it on current tv. i'm hal sparks filling in with jacki schechner all week long. we'll be back right after this. >> announcer: it's the "stephanie miller show." >> "viewpoint" digs deep into the issues of the day. >> has the time finally come for real immigration reform? >> with a distinctly satirical point of view. if you believe in state's rights but still believe in the drug war you must be high. >> only on current tv. ♪ >> hal: welcome back to the "stephani
in the same tonal scale. if you look at cpac, i want to talk about the straw poll a little bit. rand paul won with 25% of the vote. marco rubio, at 23. rick santorum at 8 and chris christie at 7. i've maintained, and you're a national political reporter. the enthusiasm in and around rand paul is a coalition that is more dynamic than almost anything else the gop has. what are the implications of that in the next couple of years? especially as you have folks like jeb bush and chris christie. trying to move the country to more moderate and progressive in the lower-case "p" sense of the word. >> in covering ron paul, who of course rand paul is going to inherit the energy and enthusiasm from ron paul, you saw the biggest crowds, the most diverse crowds and the youngest crowds. that's what rand paul is going to capitalize on. should he run and it looks like he will run. i think over the last months and weeks you've seen obviously a split between the establishment and the tea party folks. rubio can't decide which one he is. rand paul, however, is very, i think solid and comfortable with his brand an
, the winner of the cpac straw poll was a member of the paul family. rand paul was on top with 25% of the vote, his father, ron paul, won the cpac straw poll in 2010 and 2011. senator marco rubio placed second with 23%, and single digits support went to rick santorum, chris christie, paul ryan, scott walker, ben cars on, ted cruz, bobby jindal and sarah palin. joining us now, nbc analyst and mccain senior adviser, steve schmidt, analyst and obama re-election campaign adviser robert gibbs and huffington post editorial director howard fineman. robert gibbs, this is your debut performance on the last word. we have a motto that's very republican. it is not what you say but how you say it. keep that in mind. >> i have to say that lead in provides an exceedingly low bar for which i can roll right over. you know, chairman priebus may have cued it perfectly. >> months later, he figured it out. >> might have spent less paper figuring out the two or three things they did right in 2012 rather than all of what they did wrong. i think they have a herculian task on their shoulders because it isn't about how
of paul line situation where even though it's going to be in the bill, i wonder where the bill is going to get 60% and jam the action in the house. it's got to action or the house won't act. >> chris, the problem with the house majority, the republican majority is that, first of all, it's highly difficult to move those right wingers. they are all from safe districts. and so it is difficult to put pressure on them. i do think, however, it would be possible to embarrass john boehner into at least staging a vote. i remember president obama in his state of the union speech, don't the parents of newtown deserve a vote? don't the children of newtown deserve a vote? so let's at least force the house into an up and down vote on this bill. >> sam, will that work, that kind of an appeal? >> yes, it will work because a number of house republicans who ran in 2010, including some in pennsylvania, obviously representative griffin from staten island and representative peter king as well from new york. >> delaware county. >> exactly. >> they have to be careful. >> they do have to be careful. they have
. lauren: hi. david: we have wayne angell. we have ron paul. of course his encounters with ben bernanke were legendary, historic. we'll talk to them coming up very shortly. lauren: it will be hard to get answers today because the fed is stuck in this really tough positions. we have to it figure out how to jump-start the economy, not just the stock market. let's go to nicole petallides at new york stock exchange. david: let's start, nicole. we start with fedex it was an extraordinary run-up. it was in the $100 range. it pulls back quite a bit. this is the biggest pullback since 2011? >> certainly is, the biggest pull back since 2011. concerns globally and also going to cut down what they're shipping over it asia. lauren: how is oracle looking ahead of their earnings release, nicole? >> we're watching oracle closely in the tax realm. we'll see whether or not they have earnings. [closing bell rings] david: best buy up another 5%. that stock can not be denied. as you her the bells are ringing on wall street. looks like the indexes are going to keep essentially where they were before and aft
out there. paul ryan thinks, understandably because it is his plan, thinks it is the best one. >> the goal the republican majority is to get us on a path to balanced budget to put the debt crisis out and borrow time with the bond markets. yes, i believe the president won't pass our budget into law but let's get a down payment and get a good start on the problem. that to me a constructive bipartisan engagement can accomplish. bill: with that as a baseline kelly wright live at the white house this morning a lot of talk about a grand bargain, is that being revived, kelly? >> reporter: seems to be the case right now, bill, but reality while people are hoping for it including house speaker john boehner he is not very optimistic at all that democrats and republicans can achieve a grand bargain on the nation's budget deal. having said that, you will recall that the president did launch a major charm offensive, reaching out to republicans and democrats to find some common ground, in getting america's fiscal house in order. but some republicans remain skeptical about the president's si
in the family. >> bill: yeah, and then they took their straw poll. this year rand paul won but barely, we got 25% of the vote. marco rubio 24%. and chris christie got 7% of the vote. what a bunch of losers. >> when you look at that list rand paul is one of the most extreme name on the list. but that's the crowd. that's the crowd. >> bill: yeah, far, far too much at attention to cpac. we're going to be talking to the public advocate for the city of new york later this hour. next hour the representative from the seere area club, and cindy will help us through our brackets. and bob portman creating a lot of buzz when he has a leading republican did a big flip flop on marriage equality. but first -- >> announcer: this is the "full court press." >> march madness now underway. the men's bracket is sweat games starting this thursday. noticeably absent from this year's bracket is last year's winner. >> bill: i'm working on my bracket now. >> bill: here it is. okay. do i have to fill this out before she gets here. >> no, you have time. she might be able to help you. >> bill:er don't nee
, and the libertarian hot hand is rand paul. their fight may determine who is the gop nomination in 2016. >>> a conservative newspapers in israel on the president's trip. the president seems to have won over many skeptical israelis. that may have real political consequences back home here. >>> and sarah palin is back, or was that tina fey? >> same-sex marriage, what is your view on that, please? >> well, the bible says it's gross. a lot of the amazing wonderful people i met in the audience of "dancing with the stars" seem to go that way, but no. >>> i love the way she says that. that might be the best political impression ever. this is "hardball," your place for politics. oked vacation!♪ ♪booking.com ♪booking dot yeaaaahhh! as your life changes, fidelity is there for your personal economy, helping you readjust along the way, refocus as careers change and kids head off to college, and revisit your investments as retirement gets closer. wherever you are today, fidelity's guidance can help you fine-tune your personal economy. start today with a free one-on-one review of your retiremen
republicans. when you have speaker boehner, and paul ryan, saying, there is not an immediate debt crisis. what do you make of that? >> well, you know, i don't know, i think there is. i think it is a -- >> what is in it f them to say there isn't? >> you know, i can't get into their brain, i do not know what that is about. i do know $16.7 trillion debt, growing at the rate of the deficit every year, is a big problem. >> so they see, they say -- i want to stress it is a big problem, but not an immediate crisis, di does that take the urgency off of addressing it? >> no, it does not, what business, what investment and capital is looking for is they are looking for tre deccability -- predictabilitiy and stannability, which they see the movement going on in the debt itself, that offers neither. >> when you and the governors met with the president, a weeks ago, and you talk, i think you were knee deep in the whole sequestration debate. and president's warning that disaster is coming. >> that was the story. neil: and i thought to myself, governor, i mean, holy cow. however onurus the cuts would be, the
announcement. this is significant. expected soon on the immigration debate. we're awaiting senator rand paul on the stage any moment now at the hispanic chamber of commerce. wait until you hear his headline. good morning, everybody, senator john cornyn from texas. we're live here at "america's newsroom." we have a busy day. martha: good morning, bill. i'm martha maccallum. senator rand paul throws his support behind a path for citizenship for the 11 million so illegal immigrants in america. >> we're trying to add teeth to the bipartisan plan. we want to make sure border security is in there. as conservatives we always worry, you will give them legal status and say we give border security later, it never comes like so many liberal promises. what we're asking for is, every year we get to vote on whether the border is becoming more secure. all immigration reform is dependent on those votes. congress gets to vote. not the administration report. congress gets to vote whether or not the border is secure. bill: that is one senator who is making headlines for a couple weeks now. kelly wright live in
a piece you have up about paul ryan. you say it's paul ryan's disappearing act. his stock could not have shot up much higher when he was chosen as mitt romney's running mate and now out of the spotlight. >> this story quotes dan senor. for someone who was the nominee, as the story says, the "it" boy, younger face of the republican party, paul ryan has perhaps deliberately been out of the national plilt conversation because he has a busy day job. not only is he chairman of the budget committee with a huge job but been a wing man to speaker boehner even though not a formal member of the top part of membership. ryan has consulted on everything that matters. and has become the tea party whisperer for leadership and the person conservatives trust and he tries to market leadership packages to the conservatives. >> i guess disappearing so far, he hasn't been out nationally as much as he was but not disappearing behind the scenes. >> tuesday night he was told he would not be vice president and wednesday morning, john boehner called him up and said i need you in the middle of the washington. ther
paul and marco rubio teaming up. rand paul to the intellect you'll voice of the party and marco rubio to the more emotional voice. chris christie can do something neither of them can do. this sort of no nonsense cut right to it. delivers a great punch line. tells it like it is. he has more flexibility to do that as governor. i think when you're in congress, you have to be a little more careful with your words but no one can do what chris christie does. we need him too. >> i think what you see is his strength as a candid candidate for a candid camera world. mitt romney had a lot of problems just being videoed, being himself. it was worse than the other problems he had which was not being himself. neither worked out very well. and chris christie does this thing, when he talks off the cuff. to kids or teachers or yelling at reporters, people love it. if you look on youtube at the viral videos, and he has created several. eight of the top ten are him being spontaneous. you can see, he says it is reprehensible. this is the crap i have to hear. >> how my uncle talk. >> what the hell are we
flat. nobody got it. >> two wig winners, rand paul and won the straw poll going away and receiving with his speech and marco rubio did really well. i think you see chris christie sitting there with 7% -- >> who? >> chris christie. >> he was not only excluded, he was insulted there by some extreme voice. >> insult chris christie, you only make him stronger. >> i know. ron, chris christie couldn't have had it any better. first of all, he didn't have to go to cpac and, secondly, he was on everybody's mind at cpac and, third, he fred ahead from the vice presidential nominee in the polling. all in all a big success. i would say the three big winners, rand paul and marco rubio and the guy who wasn't there, chris christie. >> i agree. the democratic party is always the worst three days of the year for the republican party when you have all of these whacko birds on the fringe fighting with each other. those are the three winners, i agree. chris christie is setting -- a nice position to be the one guy come out incredibly and a good place to be. i think jeb bush, mark is right. he fell flat
the argument for invading in the first place, that was also advanced this week by paul wolfowits' old boss, donald rumsfeld. he tweeted on the morning of the anniversary, quote, ten years ago began the long, difficult work of liberating iraqis, all who played a role in history, deserve our respect and appreciation. yes, remember that war of iraqi liberation that we were asked to sign up for as a country? you don't remember that? it's because that's not what they sold us. that's not what they told us that war was for. they're retroactively defining it that way. this is richard pearl, one of the neo cons pushing the discredited evidence of weapons of mass destruction and nuclear and biological weapons plans. he reemerged to share this bit of self-reflection. >> ten years later, nearly 5,000 american troops dead, thousands more with wounds, hundreds of thousands of iraqis dead or wounded. even though it has been ten years since the war was sold to the american public, the folks who did the selling, you know what, they did it all on tape, and the tape still exists. and now the people involved
paul's filibuster to argue the conservatives are somehow winning now. and he took a swipe at senator john mccain. >> we did have a certain eminence grize of the republican party describe rand paul and me as wacko birds. >> we wondered whether senator rand paul could corral straw poll supporter. he clearly did. the libertarian senator scored with conservatives looking toward the 2016 race. winning the straw poll with 25% of the vote. very close second there. marco rubio at 23%. no other candidate, though, in double digits. for cycle after cycle, the republican party has been rewarding the next guy in line with their presidential nomination. but for the first time in a generation, the party has no front-runner. could mean a crowded field. this weekend the potential candidates were already jockeying for position. wisconsin governor scott walker, among the weekend's more popular speakers, admitted he has white house ambitions to politico saying, quote, would i ever be interested? possibly. i guess the only thing i'd say is i'm not ruling it out. for me it's really a measure of what i've
rand paul of kentucky, fresh off of his big win at cpac straw poll he is going to be giving a big speech to the u.s. hispanic chamber of commerce where he is going to unveil his plan on immigration that will include a path to citizenship. >> bill: wow. talk about teeing himself up for 2016. >> oh yeah. he has made it very hard for immigrants -- >> bill: probably have to have an eye exam. [ laughter ] >> 20/20. >> yeah. >> i'll be curious to see how many republicans stand with rand on this issue? >> bill: kerry back to marriage equality, next tuesday and wednesday the supreme court will be hearing oral arguments on the two cases they have in front of them, doma and california's prop 8. we know how some of them are going to rule but will this rob portman and hillary clinton, and 80-some republicans signing an amicus brief do you think this all will have any impact on the supreme court? >> absolutely. they read the news like anybody else. at this point i think the politicians themselves areless important. but what is very important is public opinion. i'm not sayin
federal deficits in five years makes it imprudent to jump in with both feet. consider on tuesday paul endorsed a version of immigration reform that would allow the 11 million or so undocumented immigrants in this country to become legal. the week before he defied the hawks in his party to lead a 13-hour filibuster in protest of the obama admission's secretory over its drone war fare program. >> dan senor, you've been involved in republican presidential primaries lately. sorry about that. how would those issues stack up in new hampshire and iowa and south carolina and florida? >> i think the politics, his politics on pure fiscal issues will have tremendous resonance as his father experienced in some primary states and caucus states. i think what is untested is -- from a -- from a political standpoint is his position on foreign policy. his father never really broke through on the neoisolationist politics at the grassroots level beyond a narrow segment of the electorate. rand who i've spent time talking about these issues is much salvier than his father. >> his father blamed in effect u.
of dollars switching to geico? jimmy: happier than paul revere with a cell phone. ronny: why not? anncr: get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. >>> 16 minutes past the hour. time to check our top stories. another blow for the financially strapped postal service. congress' watchdog arm said in a la legal opinion, the post office must deliver mail six days a week. that would end the post office's plan to cut first class mail service on saturdays. >>> seattle's police department is teaching their drug-sniffing dog some new tricks. since the state legalized marijuana, the department is re-training the dogs not to respond to the smell of marijuana. >> what we're doing, ever since it was passed is de-sensitizing them to the smell of marijuana. there's some natural concern from people out in the community that if they're driving, they've got some weed, is the drug dog going to show up if they get stopped is, and oh, my gosh, what's going to happen? are they going to treat me like a drug trafficker? >> but not every police department is following seattle's lead
priority. but that might be so last week. here is congressman paul ryan on "face the nation" this sunday. >> we do not have a debt crisis right now, but we see it coming. we know it's irrefutably happening. if we follow the president's lead or if we pass the senate budget then we will have a debt crisis then everybody gets hurts. you know who gets hurt first the poor and the elderly. that's what we're trying to prevent from happening. >> john: preventing a debt crisis to help the poor and elderly. that sounds like a really good idea. could speaker of the house john boehner agree with congressman ryan on this? >> we do not have an immediate debt crisis, but we all know that we have one looming. it could be a year, two years three years four years. it's not an immediate problem. >> john: how about canceling the sequester mr. speaker. while the national debt may not be an immediate problem survival in or out of the middle class is a large and growing problem for millions of americans hit by this recession, and facing what could be a second blow from the sequester. emmy award winning filmmak
the paul ryan thing with the big asterisk and say -- >> what do you think? >> that's exactly the way you have to approach this. we do need -- first off, this issue is about 5, 10, 15 years from now, stablelizing the debt at less than 15% gdp and the essence getting entitlements under control in the out years. as part of that, you have to have tax reform and significant tax reform. and actually, simpson/bowles, a commission i served on, laid out a way to do it, got the tax rates down on the personal side to 9, 15 and 23% and the corporate to 26%. and you need to bring the corporate rate down to 24, 25, 26% and need to go to a territorial system. but you can't do that independent of the individual system, because if you have a huge gap between the top individual rate, say today it's at 42.5%, and if you took the corporate 25%, everybody started -- >> because then you have small business. small business got screwed at the expense of big businesses in the last tax bill. so you're right. so i -- look, i say, you're going to have big problems if you try to have a big personal and corporate tog
, but it was really hidden. and paul fari's piece is really good, but there was a line that said the press wasn't a success, but it wasn't a failure either. it made me think about kids' t-ball games where nobody's a loser, everybody's a winner. and there's a lot of revisionism that goes on there. where a lot of reporters did their jobs, and that's true and great. but the most damning thing in that entire piece is the great walter pinkus wrote a lot of critical things for "the washington post," was a skeptic of the war. and he averaged, i think, page a-18 for his wonderful coverage. while, as you said, all the whiz bang, golly gee, patriotic, rah-rah stuff was on the front page of both "the washington post" and "the new york times," by and large. >> and it was backing up all the op-ed writing, which was all war hawkish anyway. pinkus was a great reporter. it was only in the days after we realized there was no wmds in the days after the eration that people began to write a lot of those stories in "the washington post" and say, wait a minute, all along we should have done better than this. >> but
budget defection in the house paul ryan's budget will be on the floor this week and senate democrats introduced their budget last week, and both des are saying none of their talk with are we'll arl and the associated press expected to as , and efore the hispanic would like to talk about the gang of eight is working on. this comes as the republican national committee yesterday outlines their report for republicans going forward, things the party needs to work on and one of them is embracing comprehensive immigration reform as part of an effort to reach out to minority voters. chris, republican caller. hi, what are your thoughts on saving for retirement? go ahead. caller: good morning from across the river, i was a federal committee and until recently when it was cut in 2010 and i'm on furlough and don't expect to be brought back because of the economy, so i just sought other work and tied to put money away for retirement and find myself working for home depot and they do have a 401-k plan and it's quite good, so i found myself investing in that. but the problem is i don't see a futu
-109 in the house. a budget deal can be the long way off. as both parties hash out spending cuts. paul ryan's plan which made major slashes to entitlement programs in an effort to balance the budget within a decade passed the house. but as expected, died in the senate. >>> one of the key parts of the ryan budget includes the repeal of the president's health care law. tomorrow marks three years since the legislation was signed into law. according to michelle bachmann, failing to do away with it will have dead lly consequences. >> the american people, especially vulnerable women, vulnerable children, vulnerable senior citizens now get to pay more and they get less. that's why we're here. because we're saying let's repeal this failure before it literally kills women, kills children, kills senior citizens. let's not do that. let's love people. let's care about people. let's repeal it now while we can. >> standing room only. put a couple seat fillers behind those people when they speak. >>> health insurers are warning that premiums could go up for businesses and individuals and in some cases by 116%. t
at the cost of your action afterward to see if it justifies it and when paul wolfowitz says the only problem is that, you know, the war went on after we reached baghdad otherwise it had been great up until then is almost like saying if we had an arm of a million giant flying robots things would have turned out better. it's denying reality and to ron's point, you ask them how can they think this way, they're not concerned with the real world, with expertise, with measuring cost and benefits because they think they're above it. they don't pay the costs. this is all a giant lab experiment for them and they know better than the intelligence people, they know better than the -- >> it's a stupid answer, though. because admiral yamamoto who is not a bad guy, he didn't want to attack us at pearl harbor, he'd he would have said, if it had stopped at pearl harbor, it would have been a good war for us. from the time we arrived in baghdad, the war was over. no, it just began! >> your last thought, ryan. >> they ran an experiment on the whole globe and it failed and at this point that's why you have trut
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's proposition 8 hurts couples like our plaintiffs like chris and sandy and paul and jeff. but they're really an example of millions of other americans across their country in many other states that are also being harmed by discriminatory bans on marriage like proposition 8. >> you know, this month, just a parade of people and organizations have. could out supporting the same sex marriage. but the heritage foundation released a report that said there is no ban on same sex marriage. what is at issue is whether the government will recognize such relationships as marriages and force every citizen and house of worship and business to do so as well. americans have the right to live as they choose but they do not have the right to redefine marriage for everyone else. so is this movement for same sex marriage, is this recognition strong enough to overcome that type of opposition in. >> i think absolutely it is. and we're seeing every single day more and more americans. and prominent americans vocalizing their support for this issue. this week abc news put out a poll that showed 58% of americans supp
but also marco rubio, you mentioned. rand paul is going may be a candidate. i think at some point for the top spot but the second part, senator from new hampshire and governor chris christie, if he gets re-elected is going to be a player if he wants to be a player. >> greta: do you see a bigger role for the people that identify themselves as tea party candidates or do you think that freshly in light of the recent rnc report certain things like suggesting perhaps fewer debates which may be more difficult for less well known candidate. what do you see looking into the future? >> a dozen debates is going to be adequate for anybody to get known. 22 hurt the republican party. chairman priebus is right. we ought to limit the number of debates. it's what the democrats did to minimize the damage to them from putting anchors in charge in unscripted events. it really hurt on our side because most of anchors were happy to pick the republicans, not concerned with jobs, economy and deficit and healthcare but considered with every weird social issue or recent statement by somebody they could dr
and right converging, rand paul filibust r filibustering in protest of the white house's refusal to turn over legal documents, you're having new political opposition to the drone campaign. it went from the campaign now to political headache for the president. >> you write this in the article, the article entitled "so who can we kill." in the u.s. president obama's problem may be secrecy by treating the drone campaign as a secret, and paranoid scenarios like the casual killing of americans at home. the secrecy is becoming a big problem for the president. >> a huge problem. i think the white house understands this. in fact, this is why it appears the president is going to give some kind of a speech on this subject. the white house won't confirm this on the record. there's a lot of buzz in these circles right now that they're putting this speech together. may be coming in a matter of weeks. and i think the goal here is for the president to try to calm people down, to say, this is -- we can be transparent about this. this is just another tool we use to fight terrorism. it's a military tool,
make the case -- i am much more libertarian, i guess, which is why i am excited to see what brand paul is doing in terms of redirecting -- rand paul is doing in terms of redirect recover station. we create this inherent conflict by saying that we are for individual liberties and freedoms and the ability to make choices in your life, but on the other hand we will limit that when it comes to these issues. that becomes a very unfortunate slippery slope for us. think we need to be less of a religious party, which some have painted us into that particular corner, and more of a pragmatic political party that understands fundamentally that our rights are vested in us by the constitution and that is the first line of defense and opportunity that every citizen should have and everything flows from that. it does not mean that those social issues are less important, they're not, but that is why my pastor on sunday talks to me about those issues. i bring those lessons of morality into my life and my politics and i get to make individual decisions and choices on how i implement and execute that. fr
that you didn't want to rob peter to pay paul. you could have done that. you could have found $600 so they're not released. >> sean: amen. that's what we need, more people standing town the administration and holding them accountable for the dangerous, idiotic. asinine, dumb, and that's all the time we have, let not your heart be troubled. greta van susteren is standing by to go on the record. greta, take it away. >> greta: tonight, presidential priorities, basketball or budget? >> i bet you he spends more time filling out his march madness brackets than he does writing a budget. >> i think we can do better. >> and it'd be nice to see it on march the 4th only a month late. >> and this is a tough one. >> we're still waiting on a budget from the president, though i suspect we'll see a march madness bracket from him before we see a budget. >> syracuse, good match, but i like syracuse, biden told me if i didn't pick them he wouldn't talk to me. >> the president will be putting forward a budget in the next several weeks. >> when. >> probably the week of april 8th. >> it is beyond tardy. >> some
's not a reasonable question to look at the cost of your action afterward to see if it justifies it and when paul wolfowitz says the only problem is that, you know, the war went on after we reached baghdad otherwise it had been great up until then is almost like saying if we had an arm of a million giant flying robots things would have turned out better. it's denying reality and to ron's point, you ask them how can they think this way, they're not concerned with the real world, with expertise, with measuring cost and benefits because they think they're above it. they don't pay the costs. this is all a giant lab experiment for them and they know better than the intelligence people, they know better than the -- >> it's a stupid answer, though. because admiral yamamoto who is not a bad guy, he didn't want to attack us at pearl harbor, he'die he would have said if it had stopped at pearl harbor it would have been a good war for us. from the time we arrived in baghdad, the war was over. no, it just began! >> your last thought, ryan. >> they ran an experiment on the whole globe and it failed and at thi
-- and this is what paul ferry, who i leak, he's done great stories, didn't get to, the big story at the time was at the white house, bush and cheney were perpetuating a gigantic swindle. >> the piece today, he points out the problem of any kind of journalist. if you're us autoing government sources to get to the real sources, even your favorites, the ones that are mavericks and honest with you, there weren't enough of them. you're not on the ground and looking around the spy agencies, the defense intelligence, a lot of those agencies like the c i'm a were skeptical of the war. maybe the top guy, george tenant wasn't. but the men in the troops in the belly of it were thinking about this war being b.s. >> yes, john wrote a subject about this and talked about the loneliness of being a new republic writer against the war. >> because there was a lot of push for word. >> and john was forced to write elsewhere about his doubts. but he was saying there were career cia, career state department people. there were cadres of people horrified of what was being done with their work but they weren't being
. you stand up for rand paul when he stands up on the floor and he asks a reasonable question to the president and he puts his foot down and you stand up for him. i was asked at the national press club is the national party going to cut off funding from rob portman? of course, not. he is a good republican leader. you build a team and you have some unity on the team as opposed to slicing each other. the fact is we're a great party. we're a party of freedom, liberty, opportunity. we have got to tell our story across america and stand up for each other and build. that is the only way we are going to get competitive in presidential elections. >> how many rounds does michael steele last with you in the steel cage? final question. >> i did meet with linda mcmahon yesterday. >> is she going to train you? >> reince priebus, thank you so much. >>> coming up could we see the end of retirement? why the next generation could be working for a very long time. jean chatzky will be here to explain. more "morning joe" when we come back. ♪ ♪ no two people have the same financial goals. pnc
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